Cyclist struck and killed on Hudson River Bike Path

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Anonymous

Hit by drunken southbound driver, driving on the path while cyclist was going north at Clarkson St. Cyclist was in his 20s. On NY 1 this morning. No further details.

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Josh (not verified)
here's a link

"The article gives the impression that the cyclist was riding on the ""West Side Highway"" in traffic. For what it's worth, West Street is not a highway and the cyclist was not riding in traffic but in the bike lane.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12022006/news/regionalnews/cyclist_killed_in_dwi_incident_regionalnews_perry_chiaramonte_and_erin_calabrese.htm"

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jc (not verified)
Fact Check

Looks like the two post reporters need to get the facts straight.
Does anyone out there think the post will print a correction?

Didn't think so.

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af (not verified)
NY1 story link

"http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=64753

As can be seen from the video, it definitely happened on the bike path. Apparently, the driver was drinking at a party at Chelsea Piers and then drove his car down the ""Greenway"" instead of the road."

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Perry Roubaix (not verified)
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Can't complain (not verified)
Lots of charges

In addition to the manslaughter charge, Cidron faces charges of driving while intoxicated and reckless endangerment

http://www.wnbc.com/news/10449058/detail.html

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Perry Roubaix (not verified)

Wait until they find out he rode in Critical Mass, wasn't wearing helmet, didn't have bell, etc. Lose his licence for a year, 200 hours community service.

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mike p (not verified)
nm

misread it

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Wayne Wright (not verified)
The driver lives in Manhattan

I find the fact that the driver in this incident drove to the event to be pathetically irresponsible.

It's pretty likely that the driver knew he'd be attending a party where he would be drinking when he left his apartment on Friday; holiday parties don't usually pop up out of nowhere. Yet he chose to drive, despite the fact that he lives in Manhattan, with its good public transit and plenty of cabs.

Hopefully the prosecuting attorney will point this out.

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RFernandez (not verified)
downplay

Seems to me that when a report comes out about the tragic accident of a cyclist it is down played by the use of careful words and the tone of the reporter or the report(the media).Probably because the insurance companyies are behind this.I say this because why is it that when a pedestrian is struck by a vehicle when crossing a street,lets say Queens Blvd. the tone of the report is much different then lets say a cyclist that is killed head on by a intoxicated young male driver in a BMW driving on the westside bike path!To me its as if the tone is,hell you take your own chances when you ride a bike in NYC.And if you die well we dont know what to tell you,you should have had reflectors on your bike and a bell!

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Tanya (not verified)
from NYU publication
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Grace Lichtenstein (not verified)
NY Times story today (Sunday) on Cyclist Killed on Bike Path

NY Times Sunday 12/3 late metro section P. 47 with map--

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/03/nyregion/03bike.html

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Herb Dershowitz (not verified)

and of course it's always necessary to include in the story whether the dead cyclist was wearing a helmet and had reflectors or a light. As if this would have precluded his death. I rarely see mentioned in auto deaths whether the occupants were wearing seat belts.

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<a href="http://www.OhReallyOreilly.com">Peter O'Reilly</a> (not verified)
That's copyrighted material; post a link to the article (nm)
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Richard Rosenthal (not verified)
Is there a profile emerging here?

Hmm. 27 years old. Lives on East 4th. Drives a BMW.

Cf. with deaths to two other NY cyclists by two 23 year old drivers also driving oddly expensive vehicles in consideration of their supposed stations in life.

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Hank Schiffman (not verified)

The fact that the driver lives in the East Village leads me to believe he knew the lay of the land and was probably on the bike path to avoid driving poorly due to intoxication. The most likely reason he was there was to avoid driving suspiciously on West Street.

Consider the bike path has a double yellow line down the middle. The lanes are too small for anyone to assume it is a normal road. If the driver actually did mistake the bike path for a road (akin to mistaking a fork for a spoon, then eating the whole bowl with it,) he would have been over in the right lane and no accident would have occurred, assuming the cyclist also kept to the right.

What I don't understand is how the cyclist could miss the car unless the lights were off.

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Joe (not verified)

Interesting theory, not sure I buy it though. In any case, your theory provides the answer to your question. If he was trying to avoid scrutiny of his driving on West Street, then it would make sense for him to drive with his lights off on the greenway.

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Hank Schiffman (not verified)

If he was driving with his lights off he would have been trying to keep to the middle of the bike path as it is quite narrow, especially if DWI, thus a danger to users in the opposite direction. If he actually thought it was a road, he couldn't miss the double yellow line (even with lights off under street lamps they are obvious) and he would have kept to the right. If this was so and his lights were on how could a cyclist coming from the opposite direction not have avoided him. But if his lights were off it is possible both did not see each other.

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Josh (not verified)
here's another scenario

As we all do on bike paths, when we see a motorist we plant ourselves in their view, in the middle of the path, to force them to stop and back up, or to tell them that it is a bike path. Since Ng was an activist cyclist, he might have done that, without thinking that the person behind the wheel was completely drunk.

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Carol Wood (not verified)
Right

So: bicyclists who assert their rights in certain contexts are likely to be reckless and invite death in others.

In fact, the driver hit Eric so hard that his bike and shoe flew over onto the West Side Highway. How fast would that have to be -- 40 mph?

A more likely scenario is that Cudhead was speeding on the bike lane in the dark and struck Eric before this bright, promising young man knew what was happening.

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[email protected] (not verified)
Pictures

The crime scene pictures can be found here.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=4816676#

From the pictures it looks like the scene is still being investigated. The car is probably in the same position that the driver left it in when he came to a stop and got out of the car. You can judge for yourself.

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John Miller (not verified)

I would imagine that culpability and liability extends to the hosts of the party that Cidron attended -- I worked for Abigail Kirsch's extortionate gourmet-food-for-rubes catering company at Chelsea Piers. Bartenders carelessly served this man throughout the evening. More scandalously, someone probably valeted Cidron his car; handing keys to a drunkard as he stumbled out the front door of the event.

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Wayne Wright (not verified)
Take responsibility!

This line of thinking is part of the problem. It seems that no one is willing to be responsible for their own actions anymore.

This loser knowingly got in his car while intoxicated, and ended up killing someone in a horrific accident minutes later. It's not Chelsea Pier's fault that he drank too much and behaved so irresponsibly.

I'd love to see someone stand up and admit it for a change when they've done something horribly wrong. Instead, my guess is that Mr. Cidron is pursuing the best ways to legally weasel out of being tried and sentenced for the crimes he has commited.

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Road Rash (not verified)
Path

The bike path there is about as wide as a full size car.

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gerry (not verified)
death of a cyclist

hmmm, could it be overly indulgent parents who don't have a clue that their kids either are idiots or act(drive) like idiots?

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gerry (not verified)
death of a cyclist

regarding richard rosenthal's note of similarities in the age and vehicle of the other negligent drivers, I suggest it is due to overly indulgent parents who don't have a clue that their kids driving these expensive vehicles drive like idiots

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mike p (not verified)

it is possible that Eric saw the headlights and assumed they were from the park vehicles that normally patrol the greenway at night, the vehicle was driven at a high rate of speed, by the time eric realized it wasn't a Park vehicle being driven slowly, it may have been too late and even if he tried to get out of the way, the druken vehicle driver may have swerved to the same side that eric did

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Yogi (not verified)
How could this have happened?

Once again, we are saddened by another tragic and horribly senseless death.

We all know the driver is 110% at fault here and hope that he’ll be punished to the full extend that the law will allow. Would it help to get a crowd at the sentencing hearing?

A number of questions were raised form the cyclist’s (our) perspective.

Last Friday night was a very windy evening. I remember garbage flying around all night, (strong winds from the south). A cyclist in good fitness can easily be cruising in the mid to hi 20’s on any bike on the straight sections of the Greenway. The Path would have been deserted at that time with the wind conditions; otherwise the car would have hit someone else before getting to Clarkson St. Even if the car was going 25mph, the collision would have been devastating. How many people do you know drives 25mph with no traffic? The Cyclist probably had little or no time to react to an oncoming vehicle on the narrow path. He would not have heard the car coming because of the wind at his back. As cyclists, we would never expect something coming at us at 50+ mph, especially on an empty bike path.

Picture #4 of the WABC’s slide shows the BMW with only the parking lights on at the time of the photo. Which would make sense if the driver was so S-faced that he thought the dashboard lights meant the headlights were also on. Maybe he was so blind that he turned on something that looked like a road when he heard the GPS announce “turn right “.

HD wrote > and of course it's always necessary to include in the story whether the dead cyclist was wearing a helmet and had reflectors or a light. As if this would have precluded his death. <

It most likely would not have made any difference for the 2 fatalities on the Greenway this year. I know it’s cooler and/or a badge of courage to ride without a lid, but I think there are very few instances where a helmet can increase the severity of trauma. Maybe the NYCC should start a helmet donation program, you know, all the UV compromised ones, or new inexpensive ones with the extra cash from membership dues.

My heart goes out to the loving parent who put safety reflectors on his son’s bike.

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mike p (not verified)
memorial ride Saturday wash square park 1pm

We're going to set the memorial ride for Saturday afternoon. We'd
> like to meet at Washington Square Park at 1pm, then head to the site
> at 1:30 or so. We've been making art for the site all day today and
> have some really nice work.
>
> After the ride we want to have a memorial service somewhere nearby so
> that people can talk, have a slideshow, etc. We'd like to aim for a
> 3pm or 4pm event at Bluestockings or St. Marks or somewhere like that.
> People were also interested in having an evening dance party, since a
> good party is pretty clearly what Eric would have wanted!
>

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zac (not verified)

Will you be arrested for parading without a permit?

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Joe (not verified)

I think we're in the grey area where the propsed new rule hasn't been enacted yet, but where there is still much discretion left to the police.

But since this is not a Critical Mass ride, I'm fairly confident that the police will not be arresting or even ticketing anyone.

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mike p (not verified)

the new parade rule has not been enacted yet.

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Zac (not verified)

I was just pointing out how absurd the new rule is, and how it tramples our right to free assembly.

I doubt it would withstand a court challenge, especially since it is so blatantly targeted against a specific group.

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Luke (not verified)

I'm glad for the most part that the new rule is a non-issue at this point. For the organizers, this is not the proper venue to be testing the constituionality of the rule and for the cops this is not the proper forum to garner support from the public by trying to uphold the rule.

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me (not verified)

if this is a memorial, it should not matter

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mike p (not verified)
update on memorial plans for saturday

http://www.onnyturf.com/wiki/
The Latest Word...
Update on Memorial Details for Cyclist Eric Ng
By: Will on: Dec 07, 2006 09:33 PM (22 reads)
Visual Resistance is sending around an update notice for events Saturday to honor cyclist Eric Ng:

After the initial shock of Eric's death, his friends committed to finding ways to honor his memory and carry his light forward. We're now planning a full day of memorial events for Saturday, December 9th.

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 9

1PM: Memorial bike ride for Eric Ng, 22 year-old bicyclist, teacher, and friend who was killed by a drunk driver on the West Side bike path. Meet up in Washington Square Park at 1pm. We will ride together to the site of Eric's death at 1:30 SHARP. Non-bikers can go directly to the West Side Greenway, near Clarkson St. By train: take the 1 to Houston St.

2:30PM: Directly after the memorial ride there will be a memorial service at St. Mark's Church. Friends & family will share stories, show photos, and play music. St. Mark's Church is at the corner of 2nd Ave and 11th St. By train: 6 to Astor Place, R/W to 8th St, or F train to Houston St.

8PM: Memorial dance party. Do not go gently into that good night. DJs & live punk rock. At Time's Up, 49 E. Houston St. By train: 6 or B/D/F/V to Bleecker-Lafayette.

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mike p (not verified)
eric ng memorial ride video by Clarence
cycling trips