Is anyone else bummed that George Hincape didn't do well yesterday? I know I should be happy for Floyd Landis, but I read an interview with him in Outside magazine and he seemed full of himself obnoxious. I know it goes with the turf, but I thought maybe it would be George's year. Does he still have a chance? It's weird enough watching the tour without Lance, but no Basso or Ulrich is plain disorienting.
Karol
Who's going to win the Tour?
Sun, 07/09/2006 - 4:44am
Sun, 07/09/2006 - 7:00am
#1
Never mind George. I'm pulling for Levi! Disaster time! Looks like it'll be Floyd, but this Tour is pretty crazy. George is definitely still in it. Should make for some entertaining viewing in the next couple of weeks.
Sun, 07/09/2006 - 11:11pm
#2
hip surgery? (a couple urls)
"Landis may face hip surgery after Tour
http://www.velonews.com/tour2006/news/articles/10316.0.html
""Surgery to treat the condition after the 2004 season failed, according to the site, adding that the procedure impaired Landis's 2005 season and prompted fears his career would be over""
No. 2 in Tour Confirms He Needs Hip Surgery
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/sports/othersports/10landiscnd.html?hp&ex=1152504000&en=d656a0465c29674b&ei=5094&partner=homepage
""If I hadn't had a bicycle-racing career, I would have had the hip replaced two years ago because I don't really want to deal with the pain,"" said Landis, the 30-year-old American leader of the Phonak team from Switzerland."""
Sun, 07/09/2006 - 1:58pm
#3
what you saw happen today was the peloton's withrawl siezure from going cold-turkey off the epo
Mon, 07/10/2006 - 8:45am
#4
Just what I was thinking, when I saw the results! Hincapie still has a chance, though. Levi seems to be suffering from that Dauphine curse.
Mon, 07/10/2006 - 2:04pm
#5
yeah, i'm sure that's it...
but some people might be doping anyway...look at T Mobile's standings and the unlikely winner of the time trial.
Tue, 07/11/2006 - 3:24pm
#6
Kloden looks good, but i'm going to cheer for Rasmussen!
7 minutes isn't so long in the mountains. And his brain didn't explode on the time trial Saturday.
--Jeff
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 8:42am
#7
le tour
I read the interview of Floyd in outside magazine and I thought he was very down to earth. I wanted him to win before the race and that interview just confirmed my decision that he should wear the yellow jersey.
Mon, 07/10/2006 - 2:48pm
#8
Honchar
you obviously don't know what he has accomplished in previous years' Giros. If you would know that you would not call him an 'unlikely' winner.
Mon, 07/10/2006 - 7:34pm
#9
please try to impress
"Please, anonymous palo alto, try to impress me with your vast knowledge beyond these oh so impressive stats. And yes, I do know he won some trials at the Giro. Pre-tour races say little about who will do well in the tour. Let me guess, palo alto, you were one of those skinny guys who was so uncool in high school you had to ride a bike because you couldn't get a date...hope it's workin' for you.
Career of Serhiy HONCHAR
2003 : Circuit de la Sarthe (Pos:2 - Time:0"")
2000 : Championnat du monde CLM
1999 : GP des Nations,Tour des Pays-Bas
1998 : Chrono des Herbiers
1997 : Chrono des Herbiers
Tour de France Teams
Stages : 0
1997-1997 : AKI
1998-1998 : CANTINA TOLLO
1999-1999 : VINI CALDIROLA
2000-2001 : LIQUIGAS
2002-2002 : FASSA BORTOLO
2003-2004 : DE NARDI
2005-2005 : DOMINA VACANZE
2006- : T- MOBILE
"
Mon, 07/10/2006 - 8:27pm
#10
Gonchar (Honchar)Among the Liquigas cyclists under investigation
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/cycling/news/2001/06/11/italy_gotti_ap/
PADUA, Italy (AP) -- Former Giro d'Italia champion Ivan Gotti is one of as many as 19 people under investigation for alleged doping violations following last week's police raids at the prestigious Italian cycling race, the ANSA news agency reported Monday.
Alessio team rider Gotti and his wife's parents, as well as six members of the Liquigas team are being investigated by prosecutors in this northeastern Italian city.
Ten or more people are the focus of a parallel investigation in Florence, also coming in the wake of a late-night police blitz last Wednesday that led to the cancellation of the Giro's 18th stage and subsequent withdrawal of second-place rider Dario Frigo.
Among the Liquigas cyclists under investigation are Ukraine's Sergey Gonchar and Italians Gianni Faresin and Denis Zanette, along with team doctor Enrico Lazzaro, ANSA reported.
Liquigas has reportedly been under investigation for the past year.
Thu, 07/13/2006 - 4:17am
#11
Mon, 07/10/2006 - 6:34pm
#12
Landis and Kloden
Even before the doping scandal, I had Landis on the podium. Without Ullrich and Basso, he is the most complete rider, with one exception -- Andreas Kloden, who appears to be in the same form as 2004, when he placed second. While I admire Hincapie, he is a pure classics rider who will lose time in the high mountains.
Tue, 07/11/2006 - 6:47am
#13
you are probably very right
i'm just a girl who wishes that lance were still here because he was cute and cool (a triathlete who got good on the bike not the typical cyclist), and now we have a man in a fur coat representing the best in u.s. cycling (see page four of outside article). whatever.
http://outside.away.com/outside/features/200607/tour-de-france-2006-floy...
Tue, 07/11/2006 - 7:06am
#14
For the Landis fans
Tue, 07/11/2006 - 7:18am
#15
Why the hate Karol? Honchar might be unlikely, but this entire tour is unlikely; that said and given his TT pedigree, I think he deserved the win and the yellow.
Lots of unknowns are going to get their life-long wishes this tour (especially with some of the big boys falling like flies)
But we need to wait until the end of the week to have any idea who can win it :) Even by then it will be a toss-up.
Tue, 07/11/2006 - 8:57am
#16
so....
"it's okay if anonymous men post messages wondering ""why women in the club have big butts"" and i can't wonder if he's a skinny geek? i guess i've wanted to say since that post a while back, dude, if you ride with women with big butts - you SUCK. call it what you want, but don't call it one thing when a guy says it and another when a woman does and has the guts to post her name with it too.
karol"
Tue, 07/11/2006 - 7:26pm
#17
You go, girl!
"Great riders come in all shapes and sizes. And, if ""anonymous"" is behind these aforementioned ""fat-bottomed girls,"" then that speaks either to his desire to view their back ends or his inability to pass them.
namaste.
~CML"
Tue, 07/11/2006 - 8:09pm
#18
Hey Sweetheart, what makes you so sure it's a guy posting?
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 7:55am
#19
Did you ever hear the phrase, There are no stupid questions? It was wrong.
Btw, misanthrope means hatred for all mankind. (I know it must have been a lot of effort to look it up in the dictionary. So sorry to burst your bubble.) I reserve mine for bottomfeeders who hide behind anynymous posts. And the person who fits that profile is an unattractive, lonely, bitter, petty, angry man who resents women who look good and ride faster than he does too. Just an Ivy League educated guess, Angrogynous Pat. Keep pedaling, Patty boy, you might get it together someday.
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 8:47am
#20
...
Karol, I have not met you yet, but can't wait...
~Claudette
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 10:17am
#21
Claudette, have you done a sig? I've done both of the A's and sometimes ride with Peter Brevett who posts A20 laps at night. If you wanna ride, drop me a line.
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 9:02am
#24
Yeah I like Karol('s message board persona at least) too.
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 12:33pm
#25
it's pure fiction, chris. i'm really a 13-year-old boy. don't tell anybody.
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 10:30am
#26
Yes, why the hate?
"Karol wrote: ""Just an Ivy League educated guess, Angrogynous Pat.""
""Angrogynous""? Is that an Ivy-League-inspired portmanteau word (angry + androgynous)?
It's funny. Until this thread, I assumed that Karol was a male of Polish birth or ancestry.
And earlier in the thread Karol wrote: ""Let me guess, palo alto, you were one of those skinny guys who was so uncool in high school you had to ride a bike because you couldn't get a date...hope it's workin' for you.""
So if he could have gotten a date, he wouldn't have needed to ride a bike? Would his date have lent him her car?"
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 10:47am
#27
so, chicks can't be funny? have you told sarah silverman?
so it's only funny, mordechai, if i were a man of polish descent, like pope karol (karol meaning charles in polish and first name of pope john paul the second), but not if i'm karol short for karolina, a woman of danish-american descent?
btw, sorry to the nice skinny guys who took to riding bikes for same reasons that mean skinny guys did. i like nice people of all stripes and sizes and speeds.
and, yeah, yeah, nobody likes an ivy league snob and look at that, she had a typo! lookie lookie lookie everybody!
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 10:56am
#28
Yes, chicks can be funny...
...sometimes intentionally, but, as this thread shows, unintentionally too. Thanks for the laugh!
Wed, 01/10/2007 - 9:56pm
#33
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Wed, 07/12/2006 - 8:22am
#34
Karol - Nice article on Floyd Landis. Thanks for pointing it out. Maybe he'll grow on you.
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 10:13am
#35
I know, I know. What I am supposed to say now, Peter, I am Floyd, I am Floyd, I am Floyd, when I get to the hill? It just doesn't sound nearly as good.
K
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 11:31am
#36
Nah. Continue with I am Lance Armstrong, I am Lance Armstrong… It has a stronger psychological effect. :)
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 10:15am
#37
Wow . . .
"I'm so glad I took the time to read this entire thread. One of the better chuckles I've had in a long time.
Anyway . . . just had to show my support for Floyd. It's funny how people interpret things differently. I think he came off really well in the Outside article, and maybe even better in the Dave Z ""interview"" in this month's Bicycling Magazine. Great as Lance was (is), it's a nice contrast to see guys of nearly equivalent skill who are a bit cheeky, have senses of humor, and who aren't (yet) PR machines. Again, no disrespect to Lance, but I'm not sure I've ever heard the guy laugh. We're talking bike-riding here, not curing canc-- um, well, never mind.
Plus I love shouting ""Go Floyd!"" at my television -- and this while *not* watching NASCAR. When the hell is that ever going to happen again?
Vive le Tour!
--DvB"
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 10:51am
#38
I totally hear you about the PR machine point. I'll try to reconsider my feelings about Floyd. He is definitely colorful!
Karol
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 10:58am
#39
Chuckles
Doug -
I am ALL for the sense of humor/cheekiness concept. Great athletes deserve our respect. When blended with personality, they're irresistible.
Namaste.
~CML
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 2:26pm
#40
I like Floyd
I agree. He came across really likeable. I have tons of respect (if not like) for Lance, but if I could choose who to have a beer with, it's Floyd.
Wed, 07/12/2006 - 6:46pm
#41
I heard he had a dead hip
Some dude told me he had this weird disease where the bone in his hip was dead and after the tour he was gonna have it replaced by a titanium ball thing like bo jackson. that's F'd up....
i like his bike.
what happened to Levi?
Thu, 07/13/2006 - 1:42pm
#42
Go Floyd!
Check out the great Floyd article from this Sunday's NYT Magazine. You get a real impression of his great sense of humor and strength in the face of adversity. It's impossible not to like him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/sports/othersports/09landis-magazine.html
