Cyclo Cabs Etiquette?

  • Home
  • Cyclo Cabs Etiquette?
18 replies [Last post]
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous

These guys have none. I was riding loops in Central Park this Sunday and saw these guys, crossing the road, riding side by side and into the bike lane. The worst thing was the guy riding the wrong way in the running and bike lane right at the stretch between 59th and 72nd Street.

Is it one big company that controls them or or they all free lancers?

Anonymous's picture
John Z (not verified)
?

Before we go further with this were you fully compliant at all times with the park's 15 mph speed limit (this includes down hill) and all of the following:

¤ 375 - Equipment
Rider may not wear more than one earphone attached to a radio, tape player or other audio device while riding.

¤ 1232 - Riding on bicycles
Rider must ride on a permanent seat;
Feet must be on pedals;
Bike must carry only the number of persons for which it is designed and equipped.

¤ 1233 - Clinging to vehicles
Attaching bike to other vehicle being operated on roadway is prohibited.

¤ 1234 - Riding on roadways, shoulders, bicycle lanes and bicycle paths
Rider must drive on right side of roadway. There are some conditions and exceptions - see N.Y.C. Traffic Rules and Regulations Section 4-12;
Bicyclists may not ride more than two abreast.

¤ 1235 - Carrying articles
Rider must keep at least one hand on handle bars when carrying packages.

¤ 1236 - Lamps and other equipment
A white headlight and red taillight must be used from dusk to dawn;
A bell or other audible signal (not whistle) required;
Working brakes are required;
Reflective tires and/or other reflective devices are required.
¤ 1237 - Hand and arm signals
Bicyclists are required to use hand signals to turn left/right and to stop/decrease speed;Rider can use either hand to signal a right turn.

Anonymous's picture
mike (not verified)
reflectors

yes make sure you have those spoke mounted reflectors on front and rear wheel and also the reflectors on your pedals,
plus lights rear and front

Anonymous's picture
mike (not verified)
dupl (nm)
Anonymous's picture
mike (not verified)
dupl.nm (nm)
Anonymous's picture
Isaac (not verified)
Pedicabs

"A few years back, I posted my concerns about pedicabs on eBikes, namely, that they were, at the time, ""operating below the radar"" regulation-wise, and that there will come a time when they will be subject to a lot more scrutiny. I also emphasized that their time ""off the radar"" will be shortened if pedicabs are seen operating recklessly or are involved in accidents. A man who ran a pedicab service (Peter Meitzler, perhaps) assured me that his drivers are carefully screened and trained.

This past week brought a front-page article in one of the dailies about pedicab controversies.

They're on the radar screen now."

Anonymous's picture
mike (not verified)
radar screen due to hansom cab turf war in CP

yesterdays front page AM new york the hansom cab outfits in central park are lobbying to get the pedicab banned from their turk,they dont like the competion.
this summer the hansom cabs could not operate in the heat wave due to horse regulations. the pedicabs took the business they could do, and stayed put..

Anonymous's picture
dang it's hot (not verified)

yeah, i love that one: working in extreme heat is regulated for the horsies, but somehow ok for construction workers, pedicab drivers, etc.

Anonymous's picture
I work in construction (not verified)
and I believe you are incorrect

"some trades have it written in their contracts they will not work over a certain temperature. Although not directly mandated by OSHA the local unions will set limits

taken from the OSHA website

ARE YOU TOO COLD?

Editor's Note: In extreme temeratures, whether it be Summer or Winter, we receive a steady volume of traffic concerning whether or not OSHA has temperature standards for various work environments - e.g., offices, warehouses, factories, etc.

The short answer is ""No."" There are no specific OSHA standards addressing employee exposure to hot or cold working environments. However, if working temperatures pose a health hazard, OSHA will attempt to address the hazard through the enforcement of the ""General Duty Clause.""

The General Duty Clause merely states that employers have a general duty to provide a safe and healthful place of employment for their employees. OSHA uses the General Duty Clause as a catch-all safety standard in the absence of any specific safety standards addressing the particular hazard.

The following information is quoted directly from OSHA's web site:

OSHA Trade Release
December 9, 2003
Contact: Frank Meilinger, (202)693-1999
Jonathan Fusfield



OSHA Offers Tips To Protect Workers In Cold Environments

The horses can tell you if they are too hot or too cold therefore the ASPCA steps in and sets the limits.


"

Anonymous's picture
dang it's hot (not verified)

exactly my point - trade contracts and union rules are not gov't regulated, and OSHA has no regulations. and not everyone works for a union. i used to work contruction as well. you show me a construction site that shuts down in the summer because it's too hot - not to mention Con-Ed, Verizon linemen, MTA, and countless others.

Anonymous's picture
Bill Vojtech (not verified)
The people have options, horses don't. (nm)
Anonymous's picture
Stef (not verified)
Avoid riding in CP on week-ends, it's too dangerous (nm)
Anonymous's picture
george (not verified)

Oh stop yer griping. They're fun. And cheap. And don't pollute the city. And don't have horns. And you've never ridden side by side or the wrong way down a street?

Anonymous's picture
David Oliner (not verified)

OK one horse carriage, and two cyclo cabs across the roadway, makes it impossible for anyone else to to use the loop. The guy riding the wrong way in the runners path was really causing a mess. I think my point is that these guys are not doing a good job of sharing the park.

Anonymous's picture
Revolutionary (not verified)
Cycle Rickshaw Entrepreneurs

"Drivers are all their own businessmen. Most cycle rickshaws are owned, maintained, garaged, and insured by one of a number of smallish owners, some of whom are more responsible than others. And we've just formed an owners' association. Don't hesitate to get in touch with one of the officers to offer positive and negative ""feedback""--they're starved for it, and they're ready to act. For more information, check out nycpedicabassociation.org."

Anonymous's picture
john grandits (not verified)

there are too few pedicabs in the park to be a nuisance. relax and give 'em a break, they are trying to make a living. i've driven a pedicab about a dozen times for a friends company and they don't go fast enough to cause problems.

Anonymous's picture
John Z (not verified)
Pedicabs OK, but...

I wish authorities would do something about those foul nags. There is nothing quite like coming home after a couple Central Park laps on a warm summer evening covered in horse manure and urine.

Anonymous's picture
Debbie Rothschild (not verified)
pedicabs during the week

I had wanted to post this question before this thread was even begun: Does anyone know if there are regulations about where on the lower loop the pedicabs are supposed to be? I ride laps midday during the week. All too often, there is a pedicab taking up the entire running/bike lane making me either ride behind it at its speed or risk my life squeezing between it and the oncoming rush of taxicabs to go around. I don't mind them in the park, but it seems they should be in the same lane as the horse carriages, not in the bike lane. Are there rules about this? Anything we can do to get them enforced if so, or established if not?

Anonymous's picture
Revolutionary (not verified)
"Cycle Rickshaw ""Etiquette"""

"Debbie,

the parks department has been caught flat-footed on the issues of pedicabs and the tremendous energy they bring to the park. Regulations are on the horizon; in the meantime, pedicabs actually are ""supposed"" to be in the right lane for some reason--which I didn't know as a driver until two years after I'd started, and after I'd established a goodly sized cycle rickshaw operation.
The demands of Parks vis-a-vis the numerous sites of interest in the park that tourists live to see has made it hard for pedicabs to find a comfy niche. We're clamoring for regulations, because the demand for our services is tremendous and because we are the future of transportation in Central Park, Manhattan, Brooklyn, and beyond. Unfortunately, the city as well as parks is stuck in a car- and truck-centric frame of mind, and they need our support to act more sustainably.
Tell your council member to support Intro 748, which creates workable regulations for pedicabs. Cheers."

cycling trips