That's all I hear on this thread.

The last time the club solicited designs for a new jersey the board received submissions from about 4 people. That's out of close to 2000 memmbers!! Where were all you artistic geniuses then?

If someone thinks they have a brilliant idea for a jersey, design it and submit it to the board, period. Having been there, I can tell you, that will inspire the leadership plenty.

Posting about jersey designs on a message board is like cycling about aadrvarks.

"Actually, there is a new jersey in the works. And it should be available by late June or early July. These things take time.... remember, this is an all volunteer organization. And as ""old Abe"" would have said: not everyone is gonna wear this one, or the previous one, or the previous one, and so on!!
Stan O."

i think a picture of the board, sitting at a bar [front before, back after], getting real sloppy, receiving the ideas, having a designer lay it out so that it works functionally and materially, reviewing & analyzing the designs [as the final product will be the responsibility of this highly paid board], trying to see if the design works, contracting a reliable manufacture [part of our previous problem], working on design changes, getting it be produced in reasonable time, at a reasonable cost, getting a final product club members can be proud of wearing and, of course, being sure everyone like. it should only take us a few minutes. bartender, set up another round for everyone. make it two, please! then i need to get to work. ps. we'll [hopefully] have it all done for you shortly.

"What's the purpose of a club jersey? If it's to announce the presence of the club and make people remember our club above all other clubs (such as 5BBC), we are making a grave an ongoing mistake by changing it every few years.

The NY Yankees have been wearing pinstripes since before the late Lou Gherig was a rookie.

Dutch Boy paints have had a boy with a ""Dutch"" haircut covering a globe with paint for nearly a century.

Hershey Bar's label was essentially the same when your grandfather paid a nickel for it.

I could go on and on with this list, but the point is, an icon only becomes an icon when it is repeated constantly, and unchanged, day after day, year after year. Professional advertising and marketing people know this, and they resist changing the visual impression that they pay so dearly to create and expose.

In my humble opinion after 40+ years in the advertising business, the best jersey the NYCC has ever had (in terms of memorability and uniqueness) was the one before the present one -- the Statue of Liberty wearing a bicycle helmet, the spikes of her crown poking through the vents. It spoke volumes. It was unforgettable. It got notice. It clearly identified the wearer in a unique and highly conceptual way. Just what you'd want from a club jersey.

So of course we replaced it.

The new Brooklyn Bridge jersey, also by Richard Rosenthal, is okay, but not that rare combination of elements that makes a powerful statement. The jersey previous to the liberty jersey was very pretty and okay, but it was just a design. Some club jerseys in the past have been total yawns (often chosen by the same committee that designed the camel, because they liked the colors that day, or something.)

If you want the club to be known by its jerseys, go back to the Statue wearing the helmet. If you're just bored and want a jersey you haven't been seen in before, check the Performance catalog, or some of the local bike shops.

But you're bored with your club jersey and want the club to change it, I say you're a fool. Your attitude brings to mind the true story of a Chrysler company divisional president who called up his ad agency (BBDO) and told them to change the advertising (for Dodge, as I recall.) It had been hanging on his wall for three months, he growled, and he was bored with it and he was damn sure that the rest of the world was, too.

The ad agency had to explain to him that the advertising hadn't even run yet.

The statue jersey was a fortuitous event, a rare stroke of genius. The usual club yahoos peed all over it. We will have mediocrity as a result.

I now wait for the flood of vituperation that is certain to follow any knowledgeable suggestion.

"

"What's the purpose of a club jersey? If it's to announce the presence of the club and make people remember our club above all other clubs (such as 5BBC), we are making a grave an ongoing mistake by changing it every few years.

The NY Yankees have been wearing pinstripes since before the late Lou Gherig was a rookie.

Dutch Boy paints have had a boy with a ""Dutch"" haircut covering a globe with paint for nearly a century.

Hershey Bar's label was essentially the same when your grandfather paid a nickel for it.

I could go on and on with this list, but the point is, an icon only becomes an icon when it is repeated constantly, and unchanged, day after day, year after year. Professional advertising and marketing people know this, and they resist changing the visual impression that they pay so dearly to create and expose.

In my humble opinion after 40+ years in the advertising business, the best jersey the NYCC has ever had (in terms of memorability and uniqueness) was the one before the present one -- the Statue of Liberty wearing a bicycle helmet, the spikes of her crown poking through the vents. It spoke volumes. It was unforgettable. It got notice. It clearly identified the wearer in a unique and highly conceptual way. Just what you'd want from a club jersey.

So of course we replaced it.

The new Brooklyn Bridge jersey, also by Richard Rosenthal, is okay, but not that rare combination of elements that makes a powerful statement. The jersey previous to the liberty jersey was very pretty and okay, but it was just a design. Some club jerseys in the past have been total yawns (often chosen by the same committee that designed the camel, because they liked the colors that day, or something.)

If you want the club to be known by its jerseys, go back to the Statue wearing the helmet. If you're just bored and want a jersey you haven't been seen in before, check the Performance catalog, or some of the local bike shops.

But you're bored with your club jersey and want the club to change it, I say you're a fool. Your attitude brings to mind the true story of a Chrysler company divisional president who called up his ad agency (BBDO) and told them to change the advertising (for Dodge, as I recall.) It had been hanging on his wall for three months, he growled, and he was bored with it and he was damn sure that the rest of the world was, too.

The ad agency had to explain to him that the advertising hadn't even run yet.

The statue jersey was a fortuitous event, a rare stroke of genius. The usual club yahoos peed all over it. We will have mediocrity as a result.

I now wait for the flood of vituperation that is certain to follow any knowledgeable suggestion.

"

This is New York. The jersey should be solid black. The logo should also be solid black. This way, only certain people would know that an actual logo existed. Can't get more exclusive than that.