A-SIG Classic

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Anonymous

Anyone know how Jay from the A-SIG Classic group is doing? (Jay, if you're reading this, feel free to respond.)

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Heath (not verified)
Even pros crash in potholes

Ekimov was training in Austin with Lance. He crashed after hitting a pothole and will probably be out of the tour.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/may05/may01news

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jay handfield (not verified)
I'm OK


I finally got discharged from the hospital today and I am feeling better (if a little bit foolish). I have some face road rash and will be in a soft collar for a week or two. Many thanks to all those who called or wrote to see if I was OK. Special thanks to Brian for seeing me to the hospital in the ambulance. It was great to have someone I knew with me in the ambulance and ER. Finally, I was very lucky to have my girlfried Simone to watch over me and take care of me in the hospital.

Hope to see you all on a ride this summer.

Jay

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Heath (not verified)
Post a summary

Are you willing to post a summary of what happened so it can be avoided in the future?

Glad to hear you are doing well.

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jay handfield (not verified)
No memory

I have no memory of the accident at all but I was told I hit a large pothole on Morningside, went over the bars and hit the ground face and neck first.

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dave (not verified)
pothole

Glad to hear you're out of the hospital and feeling better Jay.

I was riding a few people ahead of Jay sunday morning. I only heard the crash but I saw the hole. It was a deep narrow rut running about 5 to 6 feet long at the turn the paceline was taking. It was called out, but it was hard to get away from on a wet day. Judging by the turn and the angle, I'm pretty sure Jay hit it parallel as he was turning and it grabbed his wheel. Hitting holes parallel or any obstacle for that matter will send you into the ground hard – especially when you're trying to make a turn.

Hope to see you back on the bike soon Jay.

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Heath (not verified)
I know that one

I remember that hole. If I remember correctly, you have to swing really wide on the turn to miss it. It is on the turn onto 120th from Riverside.

Or maybe I am thinking of another one.

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former SIG leader (not verified)

Assuming this is at the start of the ride, I have a couple questions:

1. Was this a byproduct of riding close on wheels?
2. Was this a byproduct of the front of the paceline pushing the pace?

Just wondering.

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dave (not verified)
paceline

The paceline had actually spread out quite a bit to slow down and take the turn. We don't really start to go fast and stick to wheels until we leave the city – otherwise everyone behind would have crashed too.

It was just wet and hard to get around the hole and make the turn at the same time.

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Hank Schiffman (not verified)
This is the best way to deal with potholes or gaps....

Riders at the head of the paceline, sighting an obstacle, should look back to make sure the coast is clear, then bring the whole ride out, away and around the problem. Threading around a road problem only leaves riders further back in the paceline to wither on the vine.

I credit Jeff Vogel with giving me the insight to this situation.

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ALAN RESNICK (not verified)
bad situation-bad luck-unfortunate

the pothole in question was not your TYPICAL NY City pothole. It was 2 big , deep scary potholes; with a groove running between and past them. Not sure what Jay hit as he doesn't remember and the two people I talked to behind him weren't sure what he hit; however even if the group did everything right(which it may well have done) this is a dangerous set-up, and it is lucky only one fell in the group and hopefully no other falls have occurred with other groups or single riders.
These holes were painted orange; indicating that D>O>T knows about them and plans on fixing them!
I believe there is a city law that a pothole that D.O.T. is aware of 2 weeks prior to an incident; then they are responsible for any damages etc

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