OK, so you schedule a ride and then don't show up. Is this how the NYCC works? Or just your rides? As the ride leader, I would expect at least a posting on the site announcing that the ride is off. Is this how all of your rides go? People waiting around while you sleep in. I was at the statue from 9:20 until 9:40.
Maggie Schwarz - what happened?
Tue, 03/15/2005 - 9:12am
Tue, 03/15/2005 - 9:28am
#1
poor form
Jay and Maggie have both listed their personal contact information with the ride listing or in their message board posting advertising the ride. Why not ask them directly?
The tar-n-feather approach in a public forum is just bad form. I'd write to you offline to tell you this but curiously you do not make such possible.
Have you ever tried leading a ride yourself? You may find it a rewarding experience. Maggie and Jay have lead rides for many years with the club to the satisfaction of many club members, including me.
Wed, 03/16/2005 - 10:31am
#2
Huh?
Sorry you read your self-important life was inconvenienced, but it would be nice to have seen some concern on your part as to the ride leader's situation. Perhaps an accident along the way? Maybe a serious illness? I know I may be asking for too much, but did you considering improvising and leading the ride by yourself? I know its tough without a multipage cue sheet providing a color map with the directions, an elevation profile and a directory of deli stops, but maybe, maybe it can be done...
Wed, 03/16/2005 - 5:05am
#3
The Tuesday B ride
I have led about 50 rides over the past several years with no problems. The drive from here in Piermont to the GW bridge on the Palisades Pky always takes 15 minutes. Due to an accident Tues AM I was stuck in traffic on the pky for 45 mins. By the time I got to Ft Lee is was apparent that it would be impossible for me to get to the starting point before 9:50 AM. I tried to email Brett to apologize but obviously it was impossible to email him at the address he gave in the listing. I absolutely guarantee that the rides we listed in the next few weeks will go unless there is a posting on the message board to the contrary.
Wed, 03/16/2005 - 7:01am
#4
Tuesday B rides
"I am a freelancer with a loose schedule. I occasionally have to work on-site. Jay Jacobson, Ellen Jaffe, Chaim Caron, and Chris Taeger have always been more than willing to pinch-hit for me when this happens. I was not ""sleeping in"" on Tuesday, as Brett suggests."
Wed, 03/16/2005 - 8:19am
#5
reminder: Known cancellations, advance notice
Please mind the intentional thread drift here with this note. It's not directly related to this topic, per se. I'm working on updating the ride submission program at the moment and this thought came to mind....
Just a reminder to ride leaders who know well in advance that their ride will be cancelled (e.g. like me breaking my collarbone ~2 weeks before a scheduled ride), please let the ride coordinator know. In turn, the ride coordinator will update the Ride Submission program and the originally advertised ride will appear as CANCELLED in the online ride listings (and if it's done before going to press, in the printed bulletin as well).
Thanks!
Wed, 03/16/2005 - 8:33am
#6
A streamlined approach
"Of course, a more elegant way to handle this would be to allow ride leaders to report their rides cancelled via the ride submission program (the ride submission program as it's set up today does not rides from being cancelled, it merely makes them awkward to report.) The ride submission program would force the leader to enter a cancellation reason and the cancellation would be reported to the ride coordinator. In addition, a ""cancellation board"" could be automatically genererated on the NYCC home page."
Wed, 03/16/2005 - 8:45am
#7
better yet, we could hire sky writers!
Isaac, this was discussed ad nauseum with you and the other ride coordinators when the system was being designed. There's no point in hashing the details again (here).
Since words are not enough, if you feel strongly enough and like to invest the time, a significant commitment at that, to make that happen, and do so on your own accord, and then by all means go for it. You will then learn it's NOT feasible.
