I shall reserve my comments for the moment.
Gates
Sun, 02/13/2005 - 12:47pm
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 11:11am
#1
???
Wrong season - should have done this in the fall when the leaves are changing. Bases and posts look ungainly. This whole project looked better on paper than in reality. The park feels claustrophobic.
Most importantly, how did he convince so many Buddhist monks to hang their laundry in the park?
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 6:46pm
#2
Any on Ebay Yet? (nm)
Fri, 02/18/2005 - 3:33pm
#3
This is Cool -- Gates from Space
Mon, 02/21/2005 - 5:08pm
#4
They look good with a snow background
The orange against the snow looked pretty good this afternoon.
Sun, 02/13/2005 - 1:14pm
#5
Lovely
Saturday afternoon I spent several hours hiking up the full length of the park with family and friends, loving the installation. Bravo, Christo!
If anyone has photographs of the gates, particularly photographs of cyclists with gates in the background, please share them with the NYCC. Send them to:
[email protected]
Sun, 02/13/2005 - 2:44pm
#6
got one that may be bulletin-worthy
Took a whole bunch of them right after sunrise this morning, one in particular seems (to me) to capture the essence. It's ~900KB but I could shrink that to 400, 120, or 60 - you decide.
Went back on rollerblades at about 3pm and ohmygawd I've never seen so many people in Central Park! The crush was so bad I decided not to even try to roll the lower lap - cut back across the cutoff after coming down the great hill, then left the park and came down 5th Av.
I hope it snows. It will be beautiful. And the full moon on the 23rd, that might be interesting. Whew.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 7:08pm
#7
I can take it at that size
Please e-mail it to [email protected] There is no need to compress it, I can take it that size.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 7:40pm
#8
ok, you got it
Resized to 495KB because of my dialup.
Sun, 02/13/2005 - 1:58pm
#9
Rode thru the park today, the gates are not to my taste. Having said that, there were 5 times as many people in the park today than is normal for this time of year. A major coup for Christo and the city of New York. Art should provoke thought AND debate. I think we are witness to a MAJOR success.
George
Sun, 02/13/2005 - 2:15pm
#10
Aesthetics is my business?
OK, here we go, the club needs an architecture critic on this occasion because ‘the gates’ are architectural and get involved with cycling.
First of all, ‘the gates’ is a monumental conceptual art project and as such seems to be enormously successful in execution. If only we could have managed our military operations in Iraq with the thoughtfulness and thoroughness that this project has received!
Aesthetically, I think ‘the gates’ suffers somewhat from the gaps left so that they do not interfere with any of the existing tree branches. (That was a ground rule for the installation.) You do not readily see most of the tree branches that are in the way of the omitted arches so the gaps seem random and arbitrary.
They seem most successful when they are more continuous and border large open spaces. They seem least successful when you see clumps of gates and gaps.
They are terrific when you get off the park drive walk along under them. They are less terrific seen from the drive on a bike except when they are around a large open space.
The color is rich and wonderful when the banners are backlit in direct sun but a bit bright and bland in other lighting conditions.
Now your turn -
Sun, 02/13/2005 - 4:52pm
#11
The Gates' Effect on Weekend Laps
Individual takes on art and music are so subjective that I won't critique the gates other than to say that on a scale of 1 to 10, I give them a 1. (And yes, that is with 10 being the highest)
The point of my post though, is that based on the crowds I saw in the Park today, don't expect to be able to do laps during the day while the Gates installation is in place, at least not on the weekend. The loop drive was packed with Gates viewers. Even the North end of the Park was way more crowded than usual, though I was able to get some hill repeats in.
To any leaders who've listed rides with Central Park starts during the Gates installation, I suggest changing your starting point to one outside of the Park.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 6:47am
#12
the gates
When you figure the architecture, logistics, government and “other people” obstacles I think it’s a stoke of genius to pull this off, whether you like the work or not.
Add to that the fact that the artists paid all the costs and the city expects to profit $80MM+and you can do things like this every day as far as I’m concerned. Maybe it would even lower our taxes a bit [god forbid].
Something for New Yorkers, and others, to talk about [or complain if you will] and maybe some “new” color in our lives.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 6:57am
#13
Weekday Morning Gates
Weather was cold and crappy this morning, too bad there was no sun like yesterday. Notwithstanding, riding through the Park with the Gates up today was great. The Park was not crowded; only get the joggers, dog walkers and other cyclist in the morning before work. It was peaceful and with a slight wind, a lot of fun to ride with the fabric moving in the gentle breeze.
I have ridden on the foot paths in the Park only once (believe it was on a weekend) and was quickly chastised by the Park police that it is verboten. This morning I did it again and riding underneath the Gates was really cool.
Whether you love it or hate it, great art is both accessible to the masses and inspires debate. In that way, the Gates is great art.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 6:59am
#14
Is it over yet?
You know, I've never really thought much about our winter scenery. Without snow, anyway. All those bare trees, and shades of gray and brown usually just make me think of what's missing...
But turning left down the hill past the Lasker Pool, and seeing the landscape unstained by those gaudy orange laundry lines, made me realize just what I'd been missing.
Thanks, Christo.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 7:45am
#15
Orange
I agree that is orange, not saffron.
I liked them much better when they were just wickets.
That said, I love all the security around for my night rides...
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 11:36am
#16
My 2 cents:
I was a sceptic at first but I'm really enjoying it and amazed at the single mindedness it must have taken.
Seeing the gates by bike is no substitute for walking or running on the paths. On my bike it was ho-hum. Walking home from work at night, sticking to the side paths, really blew me away. And I had the greatest run yesterday along paths I haven't been on in years.
I liked the area around the Harlem Meer the best.
Just the wickets were up the night I walked through and they were very cool. I think I liked the gates without the curtains better but I'll have to go back again at night to check them out.
My bottom line is: Like it or not, it is not something I will ever forget seeing.
here are a few photos.
http://www.billwolf.com/gallery/gates
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 11:18am
#17
CP Mugging (for real)
"
Criminals are also increasing their revenue during the exhibition. I just found out while discussing ""The Gates"" with a co-worker. Her husband (a long time NY’er) was jumped last Thursday evening around 7:30 pm. He was going home from just south of Mt. Sinai hospital at 96 and 5th. After 2 cross-town buses went by filled with people, he decided to walk to CPW for a Subway towards w. village.
When he got to the middle of the park, he was jumped by 4 young black males who took off with his wallet. He was roughed up by was not hurt. The police was not all that helpful and gave him the ""option"" of not filing a report. He did so anyway.
I don’t know about the police presence at night now that the exhibit is officially open, but be careful out there. This is still NYC.
"
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 12:05pm
#18
Travel to the Gates from VA
I've got an older car I hope nobody would want to steal. Is it possible to see the gates by driving? Is it possible to park anywhere near the Gates, or how about the nearest Park and Ride? An alternative would be to drive into DC from Northern Virginia, park someplace for $30 or so (I know probably $40 or $50/day in NY), and catch an Express bus to NY. I've never tried this bus but it must be like the Chinatown express because it leaves near DC's and ends up in NY's Chinatown. Only $35 round trip though.
Many years back we were in Norhtern NJ, and in an impromtu moment actually drove into the city, parked on a side street, and went to a Broadway show. The car had government plates and was still there after the show. Was this just dumb luck?
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 12:38pm
#19
You can find parking on any side street on the Upper West Side or Upper East Side within 1/2 mile of the Park.
You'll enjoy the Gates more if you walk.
- Christian
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 1:47pm
#20
DC to NYC
Take the Chinatown bus or a bus to Port Authority if you’re staying the weekend. Drive in if you’re not spending the night in Manhattan (or if you’re feeling lucky, well do ya!). If you do drive in, be prepare to pay ~$30/day(?) for parking. Parking gets easier north of 72nd street. Street parking is not for the faint of heart, slow on the gas/brake pedals, or if you have IQ less than 130. You do need a degree in rocket science to figure out the alternate side parking thing during the weekdays (if it’s illegal, why is everybody double-parked?), and the next two weekends will be impossible.
Go without the bikes for a few days; ride when you get back to VA. Leave any weapons at home, New York is still very safe for a large city.
Enjoy!
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 2:17pm
#21
another possibility
Another possibility is to park in Jersey City (NJ Turnpike exit #14 a/b/c) or Hoboken, NJ for < $10/day and take the PATH train (underground/subway) in to 34th Street and then either walk or catch a subway to the park.
You can also park in Fort Lee, NJ, a little further up north in NJ and walk or catch a bus to cross the George Washington bridge. The NYC subway is accessible from the other side of the bridge.
Depending on the time of day it may be much faster traveling about using mass transit than driving particularly crossing the Hudson River.
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 7:49pm
#22
Thanks for VA to NYC/Gates tips
Thanks for the info. I think what I'll probably do is drive to NJ and park north of Trenton (3$/day) and ride the NJ Northeast Corridor rail to Penn Station (about $15 adult off peak round trip).
However, parking at Fort Lee sounds like a great idea especially for anyone approaching from I 80. Where would you actually park at Fort Lee? Assuming you could buy a one day unlimited ride bus/subway card (anyone know where you buy these?), you could then cross the bridge (with the card?) and use the subway all over the city.
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 7:54pm
#23
http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/
You're probably better off taking the PATH in from Hoboken or some such.
Metrocards available in all subway stations and certain stores. You can probably order online as well.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 1:47pm
#24
"Crime & NYC (it's safe people, esp. ""lower"" Manhattan)"
"Yogi I have 2 problems (I'll leave race out of it) with your report. The mugging happened before the art exhibit so tying this crime with the exhibit is misleading. And, second, you say ""this is still NYC"", implying that of course crime is rampant. But New York is one of the safest cities in the USA!! It is not 1987 anymore.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/28/ny.crime.stats/"
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 2:17pm
#25
"""The Gates"" are in Central Park"
">""this is still NYC"", implying that of course crime is rampant.
No, I’m implying that NY’ers are opportunistic, If you let your guard down because you’re distracted from your surroundings, you’ve become more vulnerable. I’m guessing the pickpockets had a pretty good weekend.
>But New York is one of the safest cities in the USA!
I agree, my second post beat yours by 19 seconds, I’m all about race :-)
"
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 2:23pm
#26
You got the time-stamp proof!
Nice job.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 6:52pm
#27
I’m all about race :-)
shame on you fat head
Wed, 02/16/2005 - 12:19pm
#28
Quit stalking me Anthony (Bike man)
Okay, we get it. You have access to different computers but still like to hide in the shadows.
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 4:26am
#29
"""...he was jumped by 4 young black males...."""
Thanks for letting us know the thieves were black. That was a really important addition to your post--NOT.
Presumably, your point was to be careful of thieves. Or is it to be careful of blacks?
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 6:26am
#30
yeah, well my cousin vinny said it was 4 youts
"Richard, you are absolutely correct about your assertion, ceteris paribus. Perhaps you don't know Yogi and vice versa, but I do know you both personally and I'm sure his ""black"" reference was made with as much intended malice, like none, as another recent poster's use of the word ""oriental"".
Perhaps the only thing Yogi (Chuck) is guilty of is being too casual in his writing. From my personal experience, with the immediate response of posting that's an easy thing to do here on the message board."
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 11:09am
#31
100 seconds
>Perhaps the only thing Yogi is guilty of is being too casual in his writing.
not guilty as charged. My sometimes unsuccessful attempts to shed light on topics is not casual.
I am frequently guilty of bad typing skills and grammar though.
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 6:27am
#32
I have no point.
>Thanks for letting us know the thieves were black. That was a really important addition to your post--NOT.
You’re welcome!
First of all, it was not an addition. These were the FACTS as they were told to me. If they were a gang of 15 Hispanic females that attacked him. I would have posted as such.
These are discriptive words, you know about those Richard. The reader attaches their own meaning to them.
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 5:30pm
#33
Yogi & Peter: When are racial descriptives useful--and when not.
"As Peter admires you, Yogi, I am certain you are a person of goodwill. That being the case, I have to believe you do not, in all cases, simply pass along that which you hear, e.g. something you know to be untrue; so you know the mere fact you heard something is hardly reason to broadcast it just as you heard it. This begs the question: Why not interpose your own good judgment here instead of falling back on the excuse, ""I heard it""? Why not filter what you hear through your own sensibility?
If you KNEW there was a thief in the park who is black, 6'4"", has one glass eye, and walks with a limp on his left foot, and described him thusly, arguably that is useful: that would help us identify him. But to caution us to be careful of generic blacks or, in your hypothetical, Hispanic females? That doesn't seem in the least bit useful, instructive, or informative.
Your point was: Watch out for thieves in the park. Fair enough.
To niggle with Peter, whom I esteem, surely there is a difference between attaching an ethnic or racial descriptive to one when there is nothing odious attached to it/him (""the Asian scholar,"" ""the Jewish comedian,"" even, dare I say, ""the Oriental Nobel Prize winner"") as against, for crude example, ""the Asian murderer,"" ""the Jewish extortionist,"" or, dare I say, the ""Oriental scam artist.""
That said, let me hasten to discredit my writing this. In 1974 the U.S. Senate passed a resolution calling Henry Aaron ""a credit to his race"" for breaking Babe Ruth's lifetime homerun record. The NY Times published my letter disparaging the senate for that part of the resolution-- which, alas, was joined in my Massachusett's black senator, Edward Brooke. As I wrote, could you imagine the senate praising Jack Nicklaus or Stan Smith (a tennis champion) as being a credit to his race?
"
Wed, 02/16/2005 - 12:16pm
#34
Does Homo Sapien sound better?
">Why not interpose your own good judgment here instead of falling back on the excuse, ""I heard it""? Why not filter what you hear through your own sensibility?
Well, I did. My source is a well-trusted friend and colleague of more than 10 years (and I know her husband). She’s a medical research scientist and I believe whole-heartedly that she has no reason to be untruthful about such matters. As I also believe myself to be in good standing in this MB, please don’t ask me to divulge the name of my informant (even in this political climate).
> Your point was: Watch out for thieves in the park. Fair enough.
Even though the victim wasn’t hurt badly, it was a violent attack. So I hope people aren’t any less careful than usual in CP after dark just because ""the Gates"" are up.
And lastly, an action even with the right intentions can sometimes do harm.
So Richard, I apologize if I’ve offended your delicate sensibilities with the information.
My apologies also goes out to your people.
"
Thu, 02/17/2005 - 1:14pm
#35
To the increasingly understandably anonymous Yogi
"""Delicate sensibilities."" ""Your people.""
Are you playing obdurate or do you really not get my point? Alas, to put your reply, above, in the best possible light for you, it appears you don't and are ignorant on the point. (I prefer that interpretation to thinking you're a race-baiter. I really don't know your message board personna as others here seem to. It would seem perhaps you're merely a provocateur. If so and that's how you get your kicks, so be it...but, sadly, it does speak of a certain core emptiness.)
Irrespective of your source, I again ask: what was YOUR point in YOUR writing the thieves were black?"
Thu, 02/17/2005 - 2:18pm
#36
An Empty Mirror
"Oh Please, if you want to get personal, don’t use that ""get a life"", or ""certain emptiness?"" spiel.
We ARE here sometimes for kicks. Some people dare to post; most people lurk due to the hostile environment. You’re looking to do battle all the time, so I’ll engage you to beat a dead horse (something you like to do).
> Irrespective of your source, I again ask: what was YOUR point in YOUR writing the thieves were black?
How about the mere fact that’s what happened and it’s in the police report. If you want to check it out, it’s at the CP precinct of the NYPD. That’s it! nothing more, nothing less. no ""race baiting"", as you call it.
What is YOUR point in making this PINK Elephant ever larger in this thread.
Are you still sore about the whole ""Oriental"" thing. Okay, use it if you want to.
But it doesn’t change the fact that I know of no Asians who are offended by the word ""Asian"". But there are many who are offended by ""Oriental"". If you insist to call your Asians friends ""Orientals"" be my guest. It’s a free country. How would you feel if somebody keeps calling you ""Dick"" because your name is Richard (assuming that you do prefer Richard)?
Stop trying to turn this about me typing the word ""black"". I’m surprised that it doesn’t bother you that someone has ""stalk"" me and other long time members of the club by taking pot shots from the dark. Where’s your outrage in that?
Yeah, I realize this back and forth is fruitless sometimes, But I didn’t start this. So comb through this carefully and pick it apart. Find things that might or might not be there, I will probably not reply because I hope I don’t have to justify all my posting to you. Go pick on Anthony.
Excuse me while I go and fill my empty vessel. You’re still ahead of me in the top 25.
"
Thu, 02/17/2005 - 2:58pm
#37
i cringe at anecdotal evidence
What I wanted to challenge about your post was its anecdotal nature which then alarmed our friends from Virginia who became afraid of their old car getting stolen and other crimes in the big scary city.
I have all kinds of anecdotal evidence that would lead us not to eat (food poisoning or choking), bathe (slipping falling and dying in the tub), or sleep (people die in their sleep). What we need is statistics and logic, not anecdotal evidence. We also need food, showers, and sleep - even if it should kill some.
Fri, 02/18/2005 - 9:49pm
#38
Yogi goes ad hominem with adman: Watch out for blacks, Part 4.
"
Dear Yogi:
Let me begin my stating I would gladly have taken this off the board and written/talked with you directly; but I can't do that since you, understandably, insist on remaining anonymous.
You ask why don't I go after people who go after you on the message board rather than you. Are you looking to have me help you? I suspect you can take care of yourself. In fact, I suspect it would be a mistake for anyone, me included, to get into a pissing match with you: I suspect you win pissing matches.
Flattered as I am to learn from you that you read and remember my posts, I can't generally reciprocate your flattery; and flattered as I am to learn you read my posts, I do wish you would bring a bit more comprehension and discernment to your reading them. For just one example, in spite of your pose to the contrary, you know damn well I never called you a race-baiter and your suggestion I did is both devious and nasty.
I really hadn't thought you culpable of anything more than a lapse of good judgment in an unthinking moment; but the more insistent you are in trying to justify what you wrote, the more it appears you intended the ugly ramifications of what you wrote.
Let's review. You spoke of black thieves in the park when you wrote we should watch out for thieves in the park. I asked you why you saw fit to say the thieves you spoke of were black? You hid behind your source(s), ""(A) well-trusted friend and colleague of more than 10 years (and I know her husband). She’s a medical research scientist and I believe whole-heartedly that she has no reason to be untruthful about such matters""—as though any of that were relevant to my question. I never questioned the truth of her saying the thieves were black. I don't doubt they were. I only questioned why YOU passed along the fact they were black when that wasn't germane to your point that we should be wary of thieves in the park. You didn't answer.
Then you attributed your stating they were black to the fact that's in the police report. But you really didn't go to the Central Park precinct to check out the police report, did you? You were just further parroting what your source told you she told the police. IF your point was to alert us to those particular thieves, why didn't you report what the police report likely contained: their age, weight, height, clothing, and any distinguishing characteristics—as well as their being black.
But why do you persist in trying to justify your referring to those particular thieves as black since you said you wanted to warn us to be wary of all thieves in the park? The reason you gave, in a non sequiter, is you were told they were black. I asked you why you didn't filter what you heard with your own judgment instead of robotically simply passing along what you heard. You didn't answer.
I long ago acknowledged my clumsiness, wrong-headedness, ignorance, thoughtlessness, and insensitiivty for using the word oriental instead of Asian. You suggest your referring to black thieves was equivalent to my identifying a rider who was being sought in order to return something he loaned. Your suggesting an equivalency between one who attaches a racial description to one person in order to identify him so he can be repaid for something he loaned, and one who attaches a racial description to an entire people when speaking of thieves wasn't simply disingenuous of you: it was bogus. It was ignorant. It was nasty. And it was b.s. If you truly can't see the distinction, then I shouldn't hold you up to ridicule or scorn as it's wrong to attack or mock a handicapped person for something having to do with his handicap.
But I choose to believe it is nothing more than your pride and embarrassment that bar you from acknowledging what you know to be right. Permit me to suggest the simple, easy, correct, dignified, and overdue end of this would be for you to acknowledge and admit error. Of course, that requires a"
Mon, 02/21/2005 - 10:43am
#39
Excuse me while I go and fill my empty vessel...
Pride feels no pain.
Pride feels no cold.
Pride is the mask of one's own faults.
Pride goes before, and shame follow after.
Pride joined with many virtues chokes them all.
Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
Pride is as loud a beggar as want, and goes before a fall.
Pride rode out on a mountain bike, and returned on foot.
Pride will have a fall.
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 5:41pm
#40
If they were a gang of 15 Hispanic females ....
wow.
15 hispanics?
please stop posting your stupidity and ignorance on this board.
your posts for the past few years and present reflects your IGNORANCE in this club.
get a life or get a real job - since you have a lot of time in your hand to post on this board other than trying to gain acceptance in this club
Wed, 02/16/2005 - 12:20pm
#41
Quit stalking me Anthony (Verizon boy)
Go away, I don’t want to play with you. You’re a psychopath.
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 5:11pm
#42
"""...he was jumped by 4 young black males...."""
Thanks for letting us know the thieves were young. That was a really important addition to your post--NOT.
Presumably, your point was to be careful of thieves. Or is it to be careful of teenagers?
Wed, 02/16/2005 - 12:21pm
#43
Quit stalking me Anthony (Bizarro Yogi)
We're going to call the cops on you.
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 5:15pm
#44
"""...he was jumped by 4 young black males...."""
Thanks for letting us know the thieves were male. That was a really important addition to your post--NOT.
Presumably, your point was to be careful of thieves. Or is it to be careful of males?
Wed, 02/16/2005 - 12:23pm
#45
Quit stalking me Anthony (Abner Louima)
Go stalk Lance and Sheryl, or start saving for the new Discovery Team Kit. and matching Trek. You wouldn’t want Lance to think that you don’t have a crush on him anymore.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 2:11pm
#46
Gates are great
I agree with George that this is a great success. It strikes a certain awe and majesty although I personally do not think too highly of it. Then again, I truly think Stephen Malkmus is the greatest guitarist since Hendrix so who cares what I think?!
A colleague said she felt like at each path turn, she was entering an expensive car wash. I like that image.
I give much credit to Bloomberg for going out on a limb, and Christo for funding it. If he wanted, Christo could multiply his $20 mil so many times off this project that he'd even make Mayor Mike envious. The city will make a nice chunk of change too. Everyone wins, and in 2 weeks it is all gone.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 3:20pm
#47
Can't make up my mind about the gates
I still can't work out whether I like them or not. I prefer the drawings to the real things, and I prefer the photographs to the real things, except when viewing a long line of them from a distance.
I like the view south from the north side of Sheep's Meadow to the long line of gates intermingled with the trees at the southern end of Sheep's Meadow, especially when a breeze catches them.
Seeing them in the wind and rain today was very different from seeing them in the bright sunshine. Apart fromk the obvious difference in lighting, there was more than a gentle breeze and the effect of gusting wind on them was very dramatic.
Like at least one other commentator, I like the view looking towards the sun and seeing them backlit with the tree shadows projected onto them. But they did often remind me of laundry on the line.
I think they look more interesting on a slope, rather than on a piece of flat path.
I found walking under them yesterday afternoon claustrophobic but thought that had more to do with the crowds of people. But, this afternoon, I experienced the same feeling when there was hardly a soul in the park. When you are right underneath them, they feel like they are too close together. But from a distance, the long line effect would be lost if they were further apart.
Whoever said they were saffron is colour blind. They are orange.
I think they would be enhanced dramatically by a very substantial snowfall. Let's hope we get one before they are taken down.
I still find the concept of the artist paying the city to mount the exhibition odd. But I don't deny the economic value, at least at weekends, to local businesses as the masses flock to the park to see them. I can only assume the heavy traffic in the city yesterday, especially on the West Side highway - which I could see from our apartment had ground to a virtual halt in both directions by 5pm - was connected to gate visitors.
One thing is for sure, I'm glad they are not a permanent exhibition.
Personally, I think a better location for them would have been to shut down both the FDR Drive and the West Side Highway for a couple of weeks and put them up there. They would look great from the Hudson and East Rivers.
Mon, 02/14/2005 - 3:33pm
#48
One thing is for sure, I'm glad they are not a permanent exhibit
Well put
Wed, 02/16/2005 - 6:16am
#49
deeply ambivalent
"On first impression, and in certain lights, the Gates say to me
""Pardon our appearance""
On the other hand it is a great coup and i'd like to know, incidentally, how NY businesses are doing --aside from the 57th St theme park establishments. It is also perhaps the first time some New Yorkers have ever set foot in Central Park."
Tue, 02/15/2005 - 6:45am
#50
Some more pictures
Sorry, I don't know how to put web links onto the message board that you can just click on and it goes to the page. But, if you can be bothered to copy and paste the link below into a new browser window, I thin and hope you will like the pictures I've taken of the gates over the last week.
Enjoy!
http://homepage.mac.com/anthony_poole/PhotoAlbum41.html
