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"http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/issueoftheweek/20041122/200/1189

Note the link to our own MB--as an illustration of how ""divided"" cyclists are over CM. (And no, I didn't plant it.)"

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Chris O (not verified)
Provenzano must go

"Carole - Thanks for the link. My favorite line was: ""I have personally had folks ride their bikes into my car, and there is nothing you can do legally."" said Provenzano.

Hmm. Bikes riding into cars? Sounds to me like the fan's face who ran into the basketball player's fist.

Is this the new craze with the kids in the Bronx? Or perhaps she got into the middle of a filming sequence of Jackass, with daredevil cyclists crashing into her car. Or maybe it is just cyclists recognizing her and retaliating for her obvious hostility and ignorance to the role of cycling in the city. Or finally, maybe she is just lying about ""folks"" who their bikes into her car.

Chris"

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Yogi (not verified)
Catching up

"Carol:

Thanks for the link

Funny quote-

>When City Council member John Liu, who chairs the transportation committee, was asked about the bill, he told Newsday; ""When I was a kid, I had a license plate on my bike. I'm trying to remember which cereal box I got it from.""

It shows how ridiculous the bill is, because it’ll be an administrative nightmare to license cyclists and enforce the new law. It’s already illegal and dangerous to ride on the sidewalks, it’s a problem because the police can’t or don’t want to do anything about it.

Concerning CM-

I haven’t done one (not crazy about large crowds in general), but I’m for the idea that it happpens. I thought the whole idea of NYCC is that we do a mini CM every time we head over to Jersey. It’s slightly better behaved and we stick someone up front that we hope knows the route.

Chris:

>Hmm. Bikes riding into cars?

Bikes crashing into non-moving/ parked cars. It happens more often than you think. I‘ve seen it twice on just on NYCC rides over the years.

>""I have personally had folks ride their bikes into my car, and there is nothing you can do legally."" said Provenzano.

It’s a comment worth mentioning because I hope Provenzano in her 3000 lbs. car was not injured from the accident. Or maybe she thinks the cyclist did it intentionally to GET her. I hope she wasn’t too traumatized because she had no legal recourse for the assault on her car by 1"" rubber tires.

>Sounds to me like the fan's face who ran into the basketball player's fist. ??

Don’t get me started about someone retaliating and attacking the wrong people, then being rewarded a second term and more power.

Oh, you’re talking about basketball violence and appropriate suspensions/ people getting punished by sitting them out for some time.
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Carol (not verified)
My favorite citation...

"""The Hudson River is frequently filled with cyclists, rollerbladers, joggers, and walkers.""

Hmmm...hope they're not drowning."

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Peter Hochstein (not verified)
How serious are we about Provenzano?

If you really, really want to do something about her bill, don't whine on this board about her fibs concerning bike collisions. Find out who her opponent is and support him or her in the next Council election. You can start now.

Distribute leaflets. Write leaflets and mail them to people in her district. Contribute money to the opposition. And every time you send in that check for $50 or $100 or $500 to her opponent, send her a photocopy, with a note reminding her why you're doing in and how you want to see her retired and working in a parking garage, where she belongs.

In other words, put your money where your mouth is.

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Chris O (not verified)
Not that serious

Peter - I will not, at this time, be working for Provenzano's defeat, nor contributing money to Anyone But Provenzano. Fortunately, I need not put my money where my mouth is because term limits will send her packing at the end of next year. And furthermore, in the arena of politics, it should not be about money but about mouth and I can oppose someone and speak out against someone on the basis of ideas and not money. Or at least it used to be that way, and it is supposed to be that way. So while I still believe she must go alright, I shall refrain from saying where.

Chris

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Yogi (not verified)
Delicious food where my mouth is.

"I thought you were for licensing?

Believe me, I’ve had the urge to throw a body check or two to guys using pedestrians as an obstacle course.

Along the lines of what former editor x2 talked about.

How about money to where the problem is? Next time someone brings you food, give him your normal tip. Then hand them an extra dollar or two and say to them, "" hey please don’t ride on the sidewalk, it’s illegal and I almost got ran over the other day.""
They might not listen, but at least they’ll know their customers don’t like it. If they hear it a few times in a non-confrontational way, there might be opportunity for positive change. You might make your own neighborhood safer and you’re down a few bucks to someone who makes no money at all.
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